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ProPain · 16-11-2013, 20:22

Pantzer General in a Roman setting, wonder how that will pan out. He's sticking with the hexes I see.

Socrates · 16-11-2013, 23:35

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Originally Posted by ProPain

He's sticking with the hexes I see.

Do you think that's wrong, out of any contextual consideration?

ProPain · 17-11-2013, 00:02

Not at all, just an observation. In fact if it turns out to be a good TBS game I'll be more than happy about it because I'd like to play a good TBS again. The only TBS game I play now is hearthstone, and although it is a really good game it is a CCG and thus nothing like Civ.

Shabbaman · 17-11-2013, 09:03

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Originally Posted by Socrates

Do you think that's wrong, out of any contextual consideration?

Only if you're able to program an AI that can cope with it.

Socrates · 17-11-2013, 11:42

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Originally Posted by Shabbaman

Only if you're able to program an AI that can cope with it.

Is it a known fact that hexes are more difficult for an AI to handle?

ProPain · 17-11-2013, 23:30

well now this is going OT into a discussion about the pro's and cons of hexes in CivV I might as well chime in.

I don't think the hexes are what made the AI struggle in Civ V but more the 1 unit per tile rule. Also I don't think it's more difficult for a computer to handle hexes over quadrangles or 1 unit per tile over 1 SoD per tile. But it definitely proved more difficult for Firaxis to program a decent AI for the 1 unit per tile rule compared to the older SoD rule per tile. And that probably has to do with the fact that they had years to adjust that rule and the AI over 4 iterations of Civ. I remember Civ 2 where a whole SoD would die when you killed the first unit in that SoD. It allowed for so much abuse it wasnt even funny any more.

Socrates · 17-11-2013, 23:43

Also the infamous "Spearman defeats Tank" from Civ1 and the ICS strat in various iterations... Hopefully we will not get these in Trip's game.

ProPain · 20-11-2013, 20:01

Well, we did get a great icon from the spearman and the tank

16-11-2013, 20:22	#1
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	Pantzer General in a Roman setting, wonder how that will pan out. He's sticking with the hexes I see. __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

17-11-2013, 00:02	#3
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	Not at all, just an observation. In fact if it turns out to be a good TBS game I'll be more than happy about it because I'd like to play a good TBS again. The only TBS game I play now is hearthstone, and although it is a really good game it is a CCG and thus nothing like Civ. __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

17-11-2013, 23:30	#6
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	well now this is going OT into a discussion about the pro's and cons of hexes in CivV I might as well chime in. I don't think the hexes are what made the AI struggle in Civ V but more the 1 unit per tile rule. Also I don't think it's more difficult for a computer to handle hexes over quadrangles or 1 unit per tile over 1 SoD per tile. But it definitely proved more difficult for Firaxis to program a decent AI for the 1 unit per tile rule compared to the older SoD rule per tile. And that probably has to do with the fact that they had years to adjust that rule and the AI over 4 iterations of Civ. I remember Civ 2 where a whole SoD would die when you killed the first unit in that SoD. It allowed for so much abuse it wasnt even funny any more. __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

17-11-2013, 23:43	#7
Socrates Emperor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,946	Also the infamous "Spearman defeats Tank" from Civ1 and the ICS strat in various iterations... Hopefully we will not get these in Trip's game. __________________ Sent from my Debian

20-11-2013, 20:01	#8
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	Well, we did get a great icon from the spearman and the tank __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah