New tactic and other changes...

Kemal · 12-09-2005, 13:43

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Hattrick announces

12-09-2005 New tactic type
You can now tell your team to play more creatively. This means that they'll go more for special events than normally. If both teams in a match decide to play creatively, the chance for special events will increase even more. The chance for both negative and positive special events to happen will increase. Also, when playing creatively the team will be less focused on the defense. Playing creatively will probably be good for well SE-optimized teams.

This tactic type can be used immediately.

12-09-2005 Upcoming changes
We want to flag for upcoming changes to forwards and wingers after week 7 this season.

* Ordinary forwards will contribute less to wing attacks.

* Wingers (all except towards-middle) will contribute a tiny bit more to wing attacks.

* Introduce a new individual order for forwards; forward towards wing. These players will use scoring and winger ability to increase wing attacks. We'll also include a new training type for these kind of players.

Argh, looks like life of us scoring trainers has just been made a lot tougher, my trainees all have poor winging so they can't make use of this FTW option, while scoring skill has devaluated and thuis will be worth less on the TL.

Also, the fact that wingers contribute more to the wing attacks means 3-5-2 players will do even better than before vs similar skilled 3-4-3 players.... they have 2 wings thus their attack goes up significantly, whereas the attack of the 3-4-3 player goes down because of scoring skill losing value.

On the other hand, the new tactic type looks refreshing,my A-squad has 3 header, 1 unpredictable and 2 quick players (1 winger, 2 midfield, 3 strikers), so I'm going to give this a try in the first league match... even though I risk giving away chances as well via my inexperienced defender and unpred mid. If this tactic turns out succesful, maybe my specialist trainees could actually rise in value a bit, since it seems this tactic could be a good way of dealing with extremely defensive teams relying on huge defensive ratings.

ProPain · 12-09-2005, 14:24

Seems they want to upgrade attack on wings a bit vs attack in middle. I've seen payers with wingers TM and AIM peform extremely well because they have high midfield rating while their abandoned wings didnt really hurt them.

Seems to me wingers will be more valuable which fits in the slow 'depowering' of the central midfield. Although scoring has less impact on winger attacks now I dont think that's very significant in the short run. Most 3-5-2 players still focus in PM rather than wing (and thus play wings TM) as long as they continue to do that they dont have much use for forwards TW.

Wish they had done this last season however, would have been great for my old 3-5-2 off wingers line-up. Now I;ve decided to start forward training I do consider selling one of my top wingers, hopefully they're worth more now on the market and I cant play more than 1 a game anyway.

Shabbaman · 12-09-2005, 16:21

Sounds like 3-5-2 is the HT pet formation. Playing 3-4-3 is difficult enough as it is.

Dell19 · 12-09-2005, 16:25

I was simply thinking that it was disappointing that my trainees would probably be worth a bit less, didn't think about how much it will screw up scorer and defence trainers who may want to play only 1 winger.

Shabbaman · 12-09-2005, 17:44

Egoist.

There's also an announcement about playing creatively as team order. Sounds nice.

Especially nice if you have all the "good" specialties and none of the bad. So attacking headers, no defending headers, only experienced defenders, no fast players in the rain, etc. etc.

Dell19 · 12-09-2005, 23:21

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Egoist.

Is that directed at me?

Shabbaman · 13-09-2005, 07:34

Yes.

You should always think about your collegues who want to play with only one winger

Dell19 · 13-09-2005, 12:08

I play with one winger.

Kemal · 14-09-2005, 14:29

Just a word of warning: it seems that playing creatively increases the chance of any SE occuring for both you and the opposing team in the exact same way. However, only the team that actually plays creatively gets the defensive penalties... using this one might only be worth it in extreme cases it seems to me, when your opponents does not have any, or at least very few specialities in his lineup.

It also makes playing this tactic a rather reactive strategy, since it depends more on your opponents line-up than your own it seems.

Shabbaman · 14-09-2005, 15:22

It might be a cool alternative for counter-coaches against weak teams though.

12-09-2005, 14:24	#2
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	Seems they want to upgrade attack on wings a bit vs attack in middle. I've seen payers with wingers TM and AIM peform extremely well because they have high midfield rating while their abandoned wings didnt really hurt them. Seems to me wingers will be more valuable which fits in the slow 'depowering' of the central midfield. Although scoring has less impact on winger attacks now I dont think that's very significant in the short run. Most 3-5-2 players still focus in PM rather than wing (and thus play wings TM) as long as they continue to do that they dont have much use for forwards TW. Wish they had done this last season however, would have been great for my old 3-5-2 off wingers line-up. Now I;ve decided to start forward training I do consider selling one of my top wingers, hopefully they're worth more now on the market and I cant play more than 1 a game anyway. __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

12-09-2005, 16:21	#3
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,494	Sounds like 3-5-2 is the HT pet formation. Playing 3-4-3 is difficult enough as it is. __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"

12-09-2005, 17:44	#5
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,494	Egoist. There's also an announcement about playing creatively as team order. Sounds nice. Especially nice if you have all the "good" specialties and none of the bad. So attacking headers, no defending headers, only experienced defenders, no fast players in the rain, etc. etc. __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"

13-09-2005, 07:34	#7
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,494	Yes. You should always think about your collegues who want to play with only one winger __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"

14-09-2005, 14:29	#9
Kemal Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,108	Just a word of warning: it seems that playing creatively increases the chance of any SE occuring for both you and the opposing team in the exact same way. However, only the team that actually plays creatively gets the defensive penalties... using this one might only be worth it in extreme cases it seems to me, when your opponents does not have any, or at least very few specialities in his lineup. It also makes playing this tactic a rather reactive strategy, since it depends more on your opponents line-up than your own it seems. __________________ <b>\"In the Game of Thrones, you win or you die\" </b>

12-09-2005, 16:25	#4
Dell19 King Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grantham. Posts: 1,359	I was simply thinking that it was disappointing that my trainees would probably be worth a bit less, didn't think about how much it will screw up scorer and defence trainers who may want to play only 1 winger.

13-09-2005, 12:08	#8
Dell19 King Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grantham. Posts: 1,359	I play with one winger.

14-09-2005, 15:22	#10
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,494	It might be a cool alternative for counter-coaches against weak teams though. __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"