Crusader Kings

Shabbaman · 27-02-2016, 14:11

I started a new game as Hvitserk of Jorvik. At some point I'm fighting the king of Wessex for control of London. Sometimes in CK2 you just need some time to browse family trees, so I discover my advisary and his wife have the great pox. How convenient. I decide to figure out if this pox has spread, so I check the court of his ally, the king of Mercia. Now, while my army was on the way to London it had sacked Tamsworth, seat of the king of Mercia. While I discover that the king of Mercia doesn't have the great pox but is merely stressed, I also discover that apparently I hold his wife, the queen of Mercia, captive in my prison. Quelle suprise! And to top that off, I'm also holding his three daughters.

A sane man would've ransomed them, but I'm a viking. Concubines, concubines everywhere!

Socrates · 28-02-2016, 12:55

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Quelle suprise!

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A sane man would've ransomed them, but I'm a viking. Concubines, concubines everywhere!

Wise (Shabba)man!

Shabbaman · 28-02-2016, 22:11

Since you're so interested in the concubines part, a minor update from the court of Jorvik. While furthering my quest to snatch Middlesex from the west saxons, I noticed that they managed to marry their heir to a East Francian princess. Yes, a real Karling (fun fact: in the original CK2 start there's only a single Karling left). Guess what came out of that hole when I captured their castle: an eighteen year old Karling, plus the queen of Wessex.

This game really makes you wonder why people stopped being viking

Shabbaman · 14-08-2020, 09:25

CK3 launches in two weeks. Looking forward to squashing the traditional postrelease bugs.

Socrates · 16-08-2020, 02:30

I'm currently watching some playing footage of EU4 online. Just to get to understand this kind of games a bit better. Do you think it's worth watching some CK2 next, or focus on CK3 coming up? Is CK3 going to be really different/better than CK2?

Matrix · 17-08-2020, 13:02

I really enjoyed CK2 tremendously. But once I subverted Northern Europe to the Finnish Empire and the Ukko religion, my mission was completed and I haven't really done any long game since then.

Will be interested to find out what is different in CK3 though. I'll check if I can find some interesting reviews on YouTube.

Shabbaman · 20-08-2020, 15:04

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Originally Posted by Socrates

I'm currently watching some playing footage of EU4 online. Just to get to understand this kind of games a bit better. Do you think it's worth watching some CK2 next, or focus on CK3 coming up? Is CK3 going to be really different/better than CK2?

I couldn't tell you if CK3 will be really different or better than CK2, and when EU4 was released I didn't see how they could improve upon EU3. The engine is still the same, and that engine has limitations. I figured a new version would mean a lot of the content that was added over time would be gone (and added later, for more money) but that wasn't the case. Paradox just came up with more content. As for CK3, what I can make of it is that event trees are different. This means the game will play differently.

As for CK vs EU: while both games look very similar, I'd say they're also very different. CK is very heavy on the character, to the point that it's more of a RPG than a strategy game. EU practically ignores characters, to the point that your king is just a roll of a few dice. They share the event tree system, and warfare is also similar in both games. The difference there is that EU is more aimed at optimising your economy, and CK is more about managing your retinue. Expansion in CK can be based solely on marriage (and murder), for example.

I'd recommend EU4 as a strategy game, I don't think CK2 would make for a nice game to watch. If there'd be one game to play it has to be CK2: it's such an unique game on so many levels that it's incomprehensible why it's even fun to begin with, until you have played it. But if you like big stacks, just play (or watch?) EU4. Playing CK2 spoiled EU4 for me, now I can only play strategy games that let me marry my horse.

Shabbaman · 20-08-2020, 18:05

Perhaps this is worth watching: https://youtu.be/O-53UbzPhiI

27-02-2016, 14:11	#1
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,494	I started a new game as Hvitserk of Jorvik. At some point I'm fighting the king of Wessex for control of London. Sometimes in CK2 you just need some time to browse family trees, so I discover my advisary and his wife have the great pox. How convenient. I decide to figure out if this pox has spread, so I check the court of his ally, the king of Mercia. Now, while my army was on the way to London it had sacked Tamsworth, seat of the king of Mercia. While I discover that the king of Mercia doesn't have the great pox but is merely stressed, I also discover that apparently I hold his wife, the queen of Mercia, captive in my prison. Quelle suprise! And to top that off, I'm also holding his three daughters. A sane man would've ransomed them, but I'm a viking. Concubines, concubines everywhere! __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"

28-02-2016, 22:11	#3
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,494	Since you're so interested in the concubines part, a minor update from the court of Jorvik. While furthering my quest to snatch Middlesex from the west saxons, I noticed that they managed to marry their heir to a East Francian princess. Yes, a real Karling (fun fact: in the original CK2 start there's only a single Karling left). Guess what came out of that hole when I captured their castle: an eighteen year old Karling, plus the queen of Wessex. This game really makes you wonder why people stopped being viking __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"

14-08-2020, 09:25	#4
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,494	CK3 launches in two weeks. Looking forward to squashing the traditional postrelease bugs. __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"

16-08-2020, 02:30	#5
Socrates Emperor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,946	I'm currently watching some playing footage of EU4 online. Just to get to understand this kind of games a bit better. Do you think it's worth watching some CK2 next, or focus on CK3 coming up? Is CK3 going to be really different/better than CK2? __________________ Sent from my Debian

17-08-2020, 13:02	#6
Matrix Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 4,828	I really enjoyed CK2 tremendously. But once I subverted Northern Europe to the Finnish Empire and the Ukko religion, my mission was completed and I haven't really done any long game since then. Will be interested to find out what is different in CK3 though. I'll check if I can find some interesting reviews on YouTube. __________________

20-08-2020, 18:05	#8
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,494	Perhaps this is worth watching: https://youtu.be/O-53UbzPhiI __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"