Dutch elections - Page 2

Rik Meleet · 18-10-2006, 16:26

I think the answer is incorrectly set up then. I voted "no" on having animal rights in a constitution ...

Darkness · 18-10-2006, 16:35

Quote:

quote:Originally posted by Rik Meleet

I think the answer is incorrectly set up then. I voted "no" on having animal rights in a constitution ...

Don't think so. I voted yes, and I got the dierenpartij as second...

Shabbaman · 18-10-2006, 17:13

I don't see why they make animal rights in the constitution a major point. There are laws on animal rights, and since apparently those aren't working properly (depending on your point of view) I'd say that that'd be a better starting point. Putting something in the constitution takes a lot of time (and votes!). It doesn't even guarantee success: there's enough in the constitution that isn't working properly anyway.

Rik Meleet · 18-10-2006, 17:28

I tested by voting Oneens on the first 10, Eens on 11 - 20, Oneens on 21-26 then 1 time Oneens and 1 time Eens on 27 and then Eens on 28-30, while giving sole priority to Animal rights. Here is the result:

39.19KB

Energy · 19-10-2006, 08:41

Mmm.. I'm missing some really important questions here. Like:
- Should the Somalian laws replace the Dutch laws completly?
- And ofcourse about your opnion about the mass murdering in Albania by Turkey in 1900 and a little bit.

These seemed to be important political topics in Holland - Banana land

ProPain · 19-10-2006, 13:05

Don't forget:

- Should public tv maintain Lingo on Netherlands 1?

Rik Meleet · 26-10-2006, 09:40

CDA, VVD & PvdA are not able to organise their own budget - how on earth could they be able to organise a national budget ??
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/article52167981.ece

so: Vote 4th largest party (SP) for financial stability

Swingue · 26-10-2006, 23:51

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quote:Originally posted by Matrix

@Shabba & ProPain: I personally follow the rule to be a member of the party based on ideology and basic principles. But I vote based on the current political situation. I can imagine, for example, that I wouldn't vote CDA in 1994 when they had all these internal problems.

Yep, that's why i am member of the VVD and (even according to Stemwijzer) will vote for VVD as well. There is always the small chance of voting for D66 or GL (as I did in the past) but this is a waste of my vote.

Rik Meleet · 30-10-2006, 23:07

Shock: http://www.nu.nl/news/867286/11/Stem...afgekeurd.html

Giant shock in the Netherlands - Minister Atzo Nicolaï (governmental renewal) disapproved 1200 electronic voting machines because they broadcast the results to over 25 meters (70 feet) making them easy to eavesdrop upon. 35 municipalities, include Amsterdam, will be goig back to the red pencil for the November parliamentary elections (the most important Dutch Elections).

Here a test on one of the machines on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B05wPomCjEY

I knew electronic voting computers sucked. I knew they scked badly. I didn't know they sucked so awkwardly that with them there cannot be free, independent, unmanipulatable, private elections. I'm happy that this notion is finally reaching the Government. Good call by Minister Atzo Nicolaï.

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Interesting website: http://www.wijvertrouwenstemcomputersniet.nl/

As hinted by that site: I'm going to vote in Sint Anthonis - 32 kilometers from my house. They vote with red pencil there.

Shabbaman · 01-11-2006, 09:56

I have a new hobby, spamming the forums with Dilbert comics. This one somehow reminded me of the Stemwijzer:

BTW, today the last few days the news is infested with global warming (happens about twice a year), according to the volkskrant now all parties are claiming that they think it's one of the most important issues. Gah. I read here that on october the 18th I wrote that apparently the environment isn't an issue anymore. But as long as I haven't heard Geert Wilders claim that he wouldn't care if the Schilderswijk floods it's probably not as bad with the environment as I thought.

View Poll Results: Dutch elections
CDA	2	22.22%
PvdA	0	0%
VVD	3	33.33%
SP	1	11.11%
Fortuyn	0	0%
GroenLinks	1	11.11%
D66	2	22.22%
ChristenUnie	0	0%
SGP	0	0%
PvdV (Wilders)	0	0%
Eén NL (Pastors/Eerdmans)	0	0%
Partij voor Nederland (Nawijn)	0	0%
Partij voor de Dieren	0	0%
Other	0	0%
Blanco/I won't vote	0	0%
Voters: 9. You may not vote on this poll

18-10-2006, 16:26	#11
Rik Meleet Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nijmegen, Netherlands. Posts: 2,502	I think the answer is incorrectly set up then. I voted "no" on having animal rights in a constitution ... __________________ Social life ? Sounds like fun !! Where can I download that ?

18-10-2006, 17:13	#13
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,494	I don't see why they make animal rights in the constitution a major point. There are laws on animal rights, and since apparently those aren't working properly (depending on your point of view) I'd say that that'd be a better starting point. Putting something in the constitution takes a lot of time (and votes!). It doesn't even guarantee success: there's enough in the constitution that isn't working properly anyway. __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"

18-10-2006, 17:28	#14
Rik Meleet Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nijmegen, Netherlands. Posts: 2,502	I tested by voting Oneens on the first 10, Eens on 11 - 20, Oneens on 21-26 then 1 time Oneens and 1 time Eens on 27 and then Eens on 28-30, while giving sole priority to Animal rights. Here is the result: 39.19KB __________________ Social life ? Sounds like fun !! Where can I download that ?

19-10-2006, 13:05	#16
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	Don't forget: - Should public tv maintain Lingo on Netherlands 1? __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

19-10-2006, 08:41	#15
Energy Chieftain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 163	Mmm.. I'm missing some really important questions here. Like: - Should the Somalian laws replace the Dutch laws completly? - And ofcourse about your opnion about the mass murdering in Albania by Turkey in 1900 and a little bit. These seemed to be important political topics in Holland - Banana land

26-10-2006, 09:40	#17
Rik Meleet Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nijmegen, Netherlands. Posts: 2,502	CDA, VVD & PvdA are not able to organise their own budget - how on earth could they be able to organise a national budget ?? http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/article52167981.ece so: Vote 4th largest party (SP) for financial stability __________________ Social life ? Sounds like fun !! Where can I download that ?

30-10-2006, 23:07	#19
Rik Meleet Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nijmegen, Netherlands. Posts: 2,502	Shock: http://www.nu.nl/news/867286/11/Stem...afgekeurd.html Giant shock in the Netherlands - Minister Atzo Nicolaï (governmental renewal) disapproved 1200 electronic voting machines because they broadcast the results to over 25 meters (70 feet) making them easy to eavesdrop upon. 35 municipalities, include Amsterdam, will be goig back to the red pencil for the November parliamentary elections (the most important Dutch Elections). Here a test on one of the machines on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B05wPomCjEY I knew electronic voting computers sucked. I knew they scked badly. I didn't know they sucked so awkwardly that with them there cannot be free, independent, unmanipulatable, private elections. I'm happy that this notion is finally reaching the Government. Good call by Minister Atzo Nicolaï. -- Interesting website: http://www.wijvertrouwenstemcomputersniet.nl/ As hinted by that site: I'm going to vote in Sint Anthonis - 32 kilometers from my house. They vote with red pencil there. __________________ Social life ? Sounds like fun !! Where can I download that ?

01-11-2006, 09:56	#20
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,494	I have a new hobby, spamming the forums with Dilbert comics. This one somehow reminded me of the Stemwijzer: BTW, today the last few days the news is infested with global warming (happens about twice a year), according to the volkskrant now all parties are claiming that they think it's one of the most important issues. Gah. I read here that on october the 18th I wrote that apparently the environment isn't an issue anymore. But as long as I haven't heard Geert Wilders claim that he wouldn't care if the Schilderswijk floods it's probably not as bad with the environment as I thought. __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"