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Old 17-04-2004, 08:26   #131
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Awesome! A leader!
I've got it, but I can not play until sunday, so please spam suggestions!
My plans:
1 remove the Japanese plague of our lands.
2 sign peace with the americans
3 revolt to republic
Agreed? Anything else?

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Old 17-04-2004, 10:20   #132
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1 Agreed
2 Agreed
3 Agreed

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Old 17-04-2004, 17:49   #133
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Agree with 1 or 2. For 3 we gotta make sure we have enough happines in most of our cities and we need to keep an eye on the Vikes as well. They are most likely going for Invention now giving them the evil Berserk. An approach is to go for temples / marketplaces now while researching / buying Chiv. Another one is to wait for peace with the Yanks and revolt then.
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Old 18-04-2004, 00:52   #134
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1,2,3 are all ok with me.
I think we need infrastructure and money whilst waiting for riders.
Revolt to Republic as soon as practicable if not sooner.
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Old 18-04-2004, 09:38   #135
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Old 18-04-2004, 11:05   #136
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0: 130 AD
Change Hangchow to use the gold hill instead of a fload plain.
Change 2 entertainers into scientist and 2 into taxman.
Chivalry drop from 8 to 7 and we gain 4 more gpt

We have 57 units, 24 cities 5 of them are 7+. In Republic we would lose 46 gpt on unit costs. We have no temple and markets, so revolting now would be stupid.

2 Japanese spears can move to out iron mountain! I protect it with the sword from Tatung.
I notice an empty army inside Shanghai. I bet we want riders inside!

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American reg med inf dies attacking our elite sword (-4)
Zulu start Leonardo
Japan moves forces away from Izumo !?

1: 150 AD
Elite sword (4) kills reg spear in Izumo, losing 2. We raze the city as there are 2 horses and 1 archer nearby - we can not defend it.
Elite horse kills vet spear in Osaka and captures the city!!! Thats all? No more Japan
hmmm I could have saved Izumo.. oh well..

Elite horse x reg Am med inf wins (-1)
Vet horse x reg Am med inf wins (-1)
Vet horse x reg Am sword (2) wins (-3)

IBT The palace expands!

2: 170 AD
Troops move towards American front.

IBT 2 American med infs and 2 swords move next to Nara! Cool!

3: 190 AD
Vet horse x vet med inf wins (-1)
vet horse x reg sword wins (-1)
Elite horse x reg sword loses doing 0.
vet horse x reg sword loses doing 2, sword promotes
vet horse x reg med inf wins (-2)
vet horse x vet sword (2) wins (-2)

The Zulu and Celts have Theology, Chivalry and Invention!

IBT Celts start Sistine

4: 210 AD
Vet horse kill a reg med inf. Stupid Americans keep sending single units. I'm not complaining!

IBT Zulu start Sistine and Celts start Leonardo

5: 230 AD
Elite horse x vet med inf retreats doing 2
Vet horse x vet med inf (2)loses!
Foe Yong Hai swordsman makes Tjap Tjoy from the wounded med inf!
Vet horse x reg med inf wins (-3)
I move 2 horses into American land to pillage their Iron supply.

Well well well.. The americans want to talk and they have Invention and Theology!
The Vikes have Invention and Theology as well!
Buy Chivalry from the Celts for 163 gold.
Chivalry + peace to the Americans for peace, Invention and Theology!
The loss of war happiness would cause some cities to riot, so I trade Chivalry to the Vikings for gems and all their gold (16)

Tech parity with everyone and 3 techs ahead of the Portuguese!

Single scientist research on Printing Press. We need the gold for horse - rider upgrades and temple / market rushes.
Upgrade 1 horse to our first Rider!

IBT Americans start Sistine.

6: 250 AD
Upgrade 2 more horses to Rider and put one Rider into the army.
The Zulu have a monopoly on Gunpowder

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Old 18-04-2004, 12:03   #137
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Great play and report Banzai!

At this point we should consider to revolt or not. There is some 8 turns of peace with the Vikes left. We either give revolt a priority and go for the Vikes in Rep. or use 8 turns to prepare a solid Rider invasion. Which means a GA under Desp. and revolt in 28 turns (8 turns peace + 20 for the GA). I have a slight preference for revolting asap, i.e. when enough happines is in place.
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Old 18-04-2004, 15:49   #138
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We have 19 turns of peace with the Yanks,8 turns with the Vikes,I assume that breaking the gems deal(19)turns carries no penalties?
Under construction are 20 temples,very few of which can be pop rushed.
We can get furs from Abe for silks + 5/t + 80G.could help when revolting to Republic.
We are strong v Abe and Ragnar(god he's ugly) both are in republic.
Our infrastructure and culture is in a worse state than China...oops we are China.
We can't trade with the other civs untill Navigation and thats a long way off.
To get the drop on the Vikes we need to use our Riders ASAP.but that gives us a despot G.A.
2 turns to completion of our F.P.We must let that complete above all.
Revolt will be probably be at least 6 turns of anarchy.
My plan is to consolidate,build temples,Markets,revolt ASAP,leave the Vikes alone for the completion of infra.
I'll probably play this evening so any comments will be helpfull
As no-one seems to bother to answer my posts,I won't hold my breath
Well done Banzai et al.
As the man said as he fell from to 20th story,passing the 10th,so far so good.
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Old 18-04-2004, 16:28   #139
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quote:My plan is to consolidate,build temples,Markets,revolt ASAP,leave the Vikes alone for the completion of infra.
Sounds good to me, hope you will draw a short period of anarchy.
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Old 18-04-2004, 22:36   #140
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Gentlemen,I present to you the democratic,peacefull,humane,neighbour loving,Republic of China.

I intend to get Republic and our ecomomy on a prosperous footing.

Matrix 250 A.D.
I.T.
Yanks->leonarnados
Vikes=>Knts Templar.

Turn 1.
260 A.D.
Shifting troops,upgrade 1 horse,Army is now filled.

I.T.
F.P completes.95GPT.
Oh dear,Birka flips. Yanks->Kn Templar. Portugal->Leos.
Vikes have their iron back.

Turn 2.
270 A.D.
Nanking->F.P,->temple.
Whip Hangchow->temple.
I'll only whip 1 pop at any turn.

I.T.
Beijing->temple->market.
Hangchow->temple->market.
Vikes->Leos.
Celts complete Sun Tzu.

Turn 3.
280 A.D.
Discover whereabouts of Portugal.
Lux down to 20%.

I.T.
Portugal tells our galley to bog off.I ignore the old fart.
Canton->temple->market.
Satsuma->harbour->temple.
Abes Arse'oles are building.Leos,Sistene,Kt Templar.
Scandyhooligans are building Leos and Sistene.
oooShaka->Sistine.
Old fart->Leos.
I know,I know but I just feel like insulting everyone.

Turn 4.
290 A.D.
Chengdu,Whip temple.
Shanghai,Whip temple.
Remove sword from ex-Izumo on board H.M.S,Temeraire.

I.T.
Shanghai->temple->market.
Chengdu->temple->market.

Turn 5.
300 A.D.
Trade Yanks furs->silks+10gpt.
Lux set to 10%,109gpt+467G.in treasury.

I.T.
Xinjian->temple->market.
Palce gets 2 facelifts.

Turn 6.
310 A.D.
Revolt.If you're wondering what took me so long I was tring to get a little joy into some of our cities. 6 turns to Republic.
Shaka has Gunpowder and Education,Brennus has Education.Everyone else is at tech parity.
Anarchy not so dusty,+29 GPT+576G.
All cities checked and given the necessary so no anarchy.
Upgrade 4 off horses to Riders for 480 G. just in case those prats of neighbours of ours start playing up..
We now have 1 rider army and 5 riders.
Treasury@+29gpt+96G.

I.T nowt. no revolts.

Turn 7.
320 A.D.
Yanks have Gunpowder.
we lose 31gpt from Shaka,next turn but by M.M.cities we have 37gpt.No worries.

I.T. Nowt.

Turn 8.
330 A.D.
Sailing,roading and jungling.
Shantung->taxman.

I.T. Nowt.

Turn 9.
340 A.D.......Nowt.

I.T.
Celts complete Kt Templar,the snooty bastards.

Turn 10.
350 A.D.
I'll take 2 more turns to get us into Republic.
Zulus and Celts are at it.
Nothing to report,else.

I.T.......Nowt.

Turn 11.
360 A.D.
Movin' and a'groovin'.
Vikes have gunpowder and education.
Potugal->gunpowder + 14G for Chivalry+Theology.Might as well get it before the techs are traded by the others.
All our Friends and future enemies are up education on us.

I.T.
Republic comes in.

Turn 12
370 A.D.
Well I'll go to the foot of my stairs! GPT jumps to 143 per turn,I love it
lux kept at 10% and cities MM'd.
We have saltpeter.
We meet Carthage,Hannibal has S.F.A.(Sweet Fuck All)and are behind by at least 4 techs.
We can buy education for an arm and a leg.

O.K.Propain (Aka the Prince of Orange)or POO for short,I've set the game up very nicely for you to do your stuff,ie,raping,looting burning and pillaging.

Excellent play,Rodders,I'll say it myself for no-one else will.



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