Hattrick Quick Question and Answer Thread - Page 10

Kemal · 29-04-2005, 12:07

Hmm, looking at form (pink) and tsi (darkblue) in the past few weeks... would this mean this guy is losing skills?

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I am wondering about it since I noticed his TSI being 1250 when in solid form, and now being 1250 too in excellent form. The fellow is only 27...

Shabbaman · 29-04-2005, 12:13

Could be. You could check out the same graph for his other skills.

Kemal · 29-04-2005, 12:19

They don't show any loss of skills so far, but maybe it can be from (high) to (low) in a specific skill? It is possible to lose skills when only 27 already?

Shabbaman · 29-04-2005, 12:20

I believe so. It starts at 27.

Dell19 · 29-04-2005, 12:25

He could have gone from high form to low form. I thought the skill drop age was much closer to 30...

Kemal · 29-04-2005, 12:30

I was wondering about the form drop possibility as well, but I was unable to explain why high solid would mean the same TSI as low excellent form, there should be a difference I suppose.

Of course, my real concern is whether skill drops can take palce that early already. That would be quite disappointing...

Schip · 29-04-2005, 16:16

there is only 1 level in excellent form. And I guess, the smallest increase being ten it could be possible that a form increase from 7.99 (high solid) to 8 would not show up in TSI. Because he is not a particulary good player TSI increases are not big with form increase. Your 12K TSI keeper should much better reflecting any in- or decrease.
I think Shabba is right in players losing part of their skill from 27 onwards, though this will be hardly noticable.

Dell19 · 29-04-2005, 16:30

Quote:

quote:Change in abilities
The 8 abilities slowly change. They may be improved by special training (preferably combined with match training). Young players improve their abilities much more than older ones. As a player approaches the age of 30 his abilities start decreasing. This process doesn´t occur constantly over time, rather, it occurs in levels. Very small decreases at a time for players around 30, in considerably larger leaps for players around 35. For some reason, these decreases in abilities always surface on Mondays, for whatever reason… Different levels of abilities are variously hard to maintain as the players grow older - scoring ability is harder to maintain than goalkeeping, for instance. Read more on increasing abilities in the "Training" chapter.

So realistically 27 seems to be too early from that.

Kingreno · 11-05-2005, 09:47

Question: Formation experience ranges from poor to excellent right? then why :

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This I don't understand. I have not played the 5-4-1 in a very long time, yet I have not played 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 ever. It also seems that last week I had no training but no message was recieved from my secretary (which is supposed to happen when you make a line-up mistake like Mel and Schip did in the past, right?). I did play 5-5-0 (3 IM, 3 CD, 2 WB, 2 W) but that is allowed...the loss of training utterly sucks though

Is there anyone here that can tell anything meaningfull about this?

Schip · 11-05-2005, 11:33

are you sure you didn't receive training? how would you check? the experience thing is strange of course, if you wish to inquire you can send a mail to nederland@hattrick.org and ask the GM's.

I'm confused with this....

29-04-2005, 12:07	#91
Kemal Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,108	Hmm, looking at form (pink) and tsi (darkblue) in the past few weeks... would this mean this guy is losing skills? 20.32KB I am wondering about it since I noticed his TSI being 1250 when in solid form, and now being 1250 too in excellent form. The fellow is only 27... __________________ <b>\"In the Game of Thrones, you win or you die\" </b>

29-04-2005, 12:13	#92
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,494	Could be. You could check out the same graph for his other skills. __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"

29-04-2005, 12:19	#93
Kemal Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,108	They don't show any loss of skills so far, but maybe it can be from (high) to (low) in a specific skill? It is possible to lose skills when only 27 already? __________________ <b>\"In the Game of Thrones, you win or you die\" </b>

29-04-2005, 12:20	#94
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,494	I believe so. It starts at 27. __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"

29-04-2005, 12:30	#96
Kemal Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,108	I was wondering about the form drop possibility as well, but I was unable to explain why high solid would mean the same TSI as low excellent form, there should be a difference I suppose. Of course, my real concern is whether skill drops can take palce that early already. That would be quite disappointing... __________________ <b>\"In the Game of Thrones, you win or you die\" </b>

29-04-2005, 12:25	#95
Dell19 King Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grantham. Posts: 1,359	He could have gone from high form to low form. I thought the skill drop age was much closer to 30...

29-04-2005, 16:16	#97
Schip Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 289	there is only 1 level in excellent form. And I guess, the smallest increase being ten it could be possible that a form increase from 7.99 (high solid) to 8 would not show up in TSI. Because he is not a particulary good player TSI increases are not big with form increase. Your 12K TSI keeper should much better reflecting any in- or decrease. I think Shabba is right in players losing part of their skill from 27 onwards, though this will be hardly noticable.

11-05-2005, 09:47	#99
Kingreno Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,270	Question: Formation experience ranges from poor to excellent right? then why : 16.04KB This I don't understand. I have not played the 5-4-1 in a very long time, yet I have not played 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 ever. It also seems that last week I had no training but no message was recieved from my secretary (which is supposed to happen when you make a line-up mistake like Mel and Schip did in the past, right?). I did play 5-5-0 (3 IM, 3 CD, 2 WB, 2 W) but that is allowed...the loss of training utterly sucks though Is there anyone here that can tell anything meaningfull about this? __________________ Go ahead punk. Make my day.

11-05-2005, 11:33	#100
Schip Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 289	are you sure you didn't receive training? how would you check? the experience thing is strange of course, if you wish to inquire you can send a mail to nederland@hattrick.org and ask the GM's. I'm confused with this....