Hm, three out of six starts are crap. How much chance do you think there is everyone will have a reasonable start when we restart? By the way, this is what you get with archipelago maps anyway.

If we restart we should ask someone not in this game to generate a map and check the starting positions.

I think thats the best idea. I dont mind playing on with this game just i wouldnt playing a start which has some appeal.

Well, starts on archipelago maps are mostly crappy especially after RtW that would seem for China and thus BCLG became quite upset. ;)

Checking the starts by somebody not playing is a good idea IMO, just to make sure that everyone gets a crappy start.

I don't mind playing it either, just thought I'd wait for a yay or nay from you lot :)

I'm fine with this idea if we can find someone (Beam?). I just don't want to keep rerolling starts for a week or so.

My start is not bad at all, but how do we judge a good start?

I like it! That doesn't mean it's a good or bad start, but it's definately a start that's worth playing...

Well lets just carry on then, the majority of people seem happy with their start :)

I get network does not exist when i try to log on to the Hamachi client.

mine green lighting by the game, try a re-load?